All_Brains wrote:
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Can you please enlighten us and explain the divine wisdom of Islam behind finishing off apostates!
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All_Brains wrote:
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As manner of fact there is no mention of this in Quran,
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All_Brains wrote:
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but as we both know Quran did not address so many things
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All_Brains wrote:
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and Haiths and Sunna completed most ofthe Islamic rules.
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All_Brains wrote:
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Now, based on the above you obviously don't believe in all of the hadiths?
Is this correct?
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bugmenot_666 wrote:
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The only one lying is you Ahmed. Quran 4:88-89 says kill the apostates.
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CamperBoy wrote:
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I cannot find any verse in Quran which says so....
Any hadiths or verses which supports the claim?
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Hello CamperBoy
Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk have invented the Hudood offences (offences which are punished with death), this invented human Sharia includes the offence of apostasy (Irtidad), according to them is punishable by death.
Under the Hudood Punishments of the Invented Human Sharia Laws, an apostate or murtad must be killed.
There is no punishment for apostasy in the Quran. According to Allah, in the Quran a person can believe then disbelve then believe then even increase in disbelieve:
137: Surely (as for) those who believe then disbelieve, again believe and again disbelieve, then increase in disbelief, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them in the (right) path.
138: Announce to the hypocrites that they shall have a painful chastisement:
[The Quran ; 4:137-138]
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ ثُمَّ كَفَرُواْ ثُمَّ آمَنُواْ ثُمَّ كَفَرُواْ ثُمَّ ازْدَادُواْ كُفْرًا لَّمْ يَكُنِ اللّهُ لِيَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ وَلاَ لِيَهْدِيَهُمْ سَبِيلاً (137)
بَشِّرِ الْمُنَافِقِينَ بِأَنَّ لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا (138)
-> See, Surely (as for) those who believe then disbelieve, again believe and again disbelieve, then increase in disbelief,, and here is the punishment Allah will not forgive them nor guide them in the (right) path., in fact Allah told Mohammad what to do with them exactly, nothing more than saying: Announce to the hypocrites that they shall have a painful chastisement:, of course they are hypocrites if they : believe then disbelieve, again believe and again disbelieve, then increase in disbelief:
The above must be the consequence of givng the freewill to believe or disbelieve (logically speaking), this freewill given regarding belief was stated clearly in the Quran:
Say, The truth is from your Lord: Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!
[The Quran ; 18:29]
وَقُلِ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ فَمَن شَاء فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَاء فَلْيَكْفُرْ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ نَارًا أَحَاطَ بِهِمْ سُرَادِقُهَا وَإِن يَسْتَغِيثُوا يُغَاثُوا بِمَاء كَالْمُهْلِ يَشْوِي الْوُجُوهَ بِئْسَ الشَّرَابُ وَسَاءتْ مُرْتَفَقًا (29)
-> See, Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it), for those who reject though, they were promised with harm but by Allah not but any human : for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!
However, Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk are not happy with Allah clear words above regarding the apostates that their reckoning is only with Allah on the JD, they belief that the apostate must be killed, so they worked hard to justify, what they did is simple, Let's steal it from the Bible then inject it in a heresay hadith and brainwash the believers that the hadith is as holy as the Quran. THEY SUCCEEDED, In many Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Malaysia - if you are NOT a follower of the accepted mainstream Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk sect you can be jailed and fined. In Saudi Arabia the Shiahs are discriminated against. In Pakistan from time to time the Shiahs are just shot and killed by the Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk. Of course the Shiahs also return the blood from time to time. It's part of the day to day life in Iraq and Lebanon at this moment.
The false belief among the Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk that they must kill the apostates has no basis in the Quran. It is another false belief stolen from the Bible and then passed off as the teaching of the prophet, sunnah of the prophet etc. Hers is the evidences of their theft from the Bible :
�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�???????Moreover, the one who blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him. The alien as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.
Here according to the book of Leviticus in the Bible anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death. He shall be stoned to death.
[Leviticus 24:16]
Here is more of this �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�???????let's kill the apostates' insanity from the Bible :
But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has counseled rebellion against the LORD your God who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to seduce you from the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from among you.
[Deuteronomy13:5]
According to the Bible anyone who thinks differently (dreamer of dreams) shall be killed. This is the real teaching of the Bible. Just kill people who do not wish to believe like you anymore.
Here is yet more killing from the Bible :
If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�???????Let us go and serve other gods' you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
[Deuteronomy 13:6-10]
The Bible and the invented Sharia Laws of the Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk do not allow any freedom of belief. According to the Bible and the Sharia Laws of the Ahl Al Al Sunnah and Shirk, a person should be put to death when he changes from belief to disbelief. It is clear again that the Muftis of Ahl Al Sunnah and Shirk reject the teachings of Allah in the Quran. Instead they prefer to plagiarise Biblical teachings and pass it off as the teachings of the prophet through nothing but heresay that we should consider holy, yeh right.
Salam
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