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Post subject: The brothel of Malik
Salam all
There is a book of the books of man made hadith that certainly sounds like a porn book, it is called موطأ مالك , MuwataÃ?¢?? Malik, the Arabic verb يطأ , YatiÃ?¢??a means To fuck, so to make from it اسم مكان i.e. to make a noun indicating a place from it, it becomes موطأ , MuwataÃ?¢??, i.e. A place of fucking, i.e. a brothel, sounds to me like a brothel that is run by someone named Malik, do not you reckon? Well, let me just consider what I said as a joke despite it has strong linguistic merit to support it.
I think going through a whole chapter from MuwataÃ?¢?? Malik that is titled الرضاعة , i.e. Breastfeeding, should do justice to anyone who is horny, especially if you like breasts very much. So let the porn show begins:
The above is alleged by someone named Yahya, so he said:
And I heard his saying exalted he is, that breastfeeding being little or much, if it is in the first two years, it should prohibit the one who is breastfed to the one who breastfeeds. But if it is after the first two years, then it does not prohibit anyone because at that moment of time it will be like food.
End of hadith
Hmmm, there is something strange in the above allegation, Yahya said that he heard: قوله تعالى , Qawlahu Taala, i.e. His saying, exalted he is, an expression that is only used with Allah, i.e. the saying of Allah, exalted He is, so I am not sure what he meant by that? Certainly he did not mean Allah because what he said next is not from Allah which is: breastfeeding being little or much, if it is in the first two years then it should prohibit the one who is breastfed to the one who breastfeeds. But if it is after the first two years, then it does not prohibit anyone because at that moment of time it will be like food.
Most likely he meant a saying of Muhammed, and he was just praising him as he praises Allah, a typical Mushrik, you know.
Now the above hadith should put Bukhari�¢??s crap about breastfeeding the adult men into shame, because the above allegation clearly stated that breastfeeding that causes prohibition is the breastfeeding within the first two years, any breastfeeding after the first two years is considered like food and does not make the one who is breastfed prohibited to the one who breastfeeds.
That makes a bit of sense, otherwise most husbands who sucked some milk from their wives, and certainly it happens, would have been prohibited to their wives.
The above allegation is confirmed through another hadith:
The above is alleged by someone named Abdullah Ibn Abbas, so he said:
Breastfeeding which is in the first two years should prohibit, even if it is one suck.
End of hadith
I.e. any breast suckling by one who is more than 2 years old, does not prohibit that child to marry the woman who breastfed him. And if breastfeeding happened within the first two years of the baby�¢??s life then one suckling is enough to prohibit.
And again, this is also confirmed in another allegation:
Breastfeeding is when it happens in the first two years. Even if it is one drop (of milk), it causes prohibition, but any breastfeeding after the first two years is like food that is eaten
Another two guys, Ibrahim Ibn Uqbah and Arwah Ibn Al-Zubair confirmed what Saeed Ibn Al-Musib said by saying the exact same
End of hadith
Please take note of the underlined name of Arwah Ibn Al-Zubair who confirmed that no breastfeeding for adults, as later on we should read something weird
The same narrator Saeeb Ibn Al-Musib said the above in different words:
The hadith is alleged by Abdullah Ibn Omar, so he said:
A man came to Omar Ibn Al-Khatab and said: I have a slave woman and I اطؤها , AtwÃ?¢??ha, fuck her; so my wife went to her and breastfed her. When I came back and I wanted to enter on her (to fuck the slave) my wife shouted at me and said, by Allah, I have breastfed her.
So Omar Ibn Al-Khatab said to him, return to her and fuck your slave woman, breastfeeding is only for babies.
End of hadith
Remember what I told you earlier about the name of this book of hadith موطأ مالك , MuwataÃ?¢?? Malik that it sounds like a brothel, see the Arabic verb يطأ , YatiÃ?¢??a means To fuck, so to make from it اسم مكان i.e. to make a noun indicating a place from it, it becomes موطأ , MuwataÃ?¢??, i.e. A place of fucking, see in this hadith how the man decsribed to Omar that he used to fuck his slave woman: اطؤها , AtwÃ?¢??ha, i.e. fuck her.
Anyway, I feel for that woman slave, who was getting banged by her master all night long and when he left to do something in the day, she finds the wife of her master asking her for a lesbian encounter by showing her, her breasts and asking her to suck it. Bloody oath, the slave woman had no power to decline, by day, she sucks tits, and by night she sucks dicks.
Imagine that the wife had to explain to the slave why she wants her to suck her tits, I am sure she told her that she will be prohibited to her husband after that, as she will be considered like his daughter, it is like the slave way out finally, then when the husband came back, he proved his wife wrong by an alleged Fatwa from Omar Ibn Al-Khatab then continued to bang his slave.
In the next hadith we read about a husband who sucked the tits of his wife and swallowed some milk from her, so he was puzzled by such crap called breastfeeding the adults and went to get some Fatwa from some sheikhs:
The hadith is alleged by someone named Malik (who owns the brothel I guess), so he said:
A man came to Aba Musa Al-Asharay and said to him: I have sucked from the breasts of my wife some milk and it went inside my belly.
So Abu Musa replied: I do not see the situation except that your wife is now prohibited to you.
So a man named Abdullah Ibn Masoud said: Look at the Fatwa you are giving to the man (in wonder I guess).
So Abu Musa said to him: How about you, what you say?
So Abdullah Ibn Masoud said: No breastfeeding except in the first two years.
Abu Musa felt embarrassed and said to the people: Do not ever ask me anything while this scholar (Abdullah Ibn Masoud) is standing within you.
End of hadith
You can see that many of those so called scholars easily promoted the wrong things, and when there was a knowledgeable religious man, he proved those scholars wrong and the scholars even admitted that.
It is inconceivable to think that by sucking some milk from your wife, you are now like her son, so you cannot have sex with her any more. It also seems that all the people above who were against breastfeeding of the adults were referring indirectly to the Quran to reach their conclusion that breastfeeding is only in the first two years of newly born babies who are still in cots, let�¢??s have a look, shall we:
وَالْوَالِدَاتُ يُرْضِعْنَ أَوْلاَدَهُنَّ حَوْلَيْنِ كَامِلَيْنِ لِمَنْ أَرَادَ أَن يُتِمَّ الرَّضَاعَةَ وَعلَى الْمَوْلُودِ لَهُ رِزْقُهُنَّ وَكِسْوَتُهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ لاَ تُكَلَّفُ نَفْسٌ إِلاَّ وُسْعَهَا لاَ تُضَآرَّ وَالِدَةٌ بِوَلَدِهَا وَلاَ مَوْلُودٌ لَّهُ بِوَلَدِهِ وَعَلَى الْوَارِثِ مِثْلُ ذَلِكَ فَإِنْ أَرَادَا فِصَالاً عَن تَرَاضٍ مِّنْهُمَا وَتَشَاوُرٍ فَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْهِمَا وَإِنْ أَرَدتُّمْ أَن تَسْتَرْضِعُواْ أَوْلاَدَكُمْ فَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذَا سَلَّمْتُم مَّآ آتَيْتُم بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَاتَّقُواْ اللّهَ وَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّ اللّهَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ (233) And the mothers should breastfeed their children for two complete years, for whoever wants to complete the time of breastfeeding. And upon him (the father) who had a begotten child, is their maintenance and their clothing lawfully; We do not impose upon a soul except its capacity. A mother should not be harmed by her child, nor him (the father) who had a begotten child should be harmed by his child; and upon the (father's) heir is a similar duty, but if both desire weaning by mutual consent and counsel, then no blame is upon them, and if you wish to engage others to breastfeed your children, then no blame is upon you as long as you deliver what you promised in kindness. And fear Allah and know that Allah is Seeing of what you do. [Al Quran ; 2:233]
-> See: وَالْوَالِدَاتُ يُرْضِعْنَ أَوْلاَدَهُنَّ حَوْلَيْنِ كَامِلَيْنِ لِمَنْ أَرَادَ أَن يُتِمَّ الرَّضَاعَةَ, i.e. And the mothers should breastfeed their children for two complete years, for whoever wants to complete the time of breastfeeding. I.E. Breastfeeding (with the context of breastfeeding babies, which is the only context to be honest) should be finished by the first two years of the newly born babies. After that it cannot be called breastfeeding, rather fondling or foreplay.
Normally, people do not question the unquestionable, the unquestionable that only babies are the ones to be breastfed, this common knowledge is not only known since human were created on earth, rather it is known for almost all living animals as well. So what made such people back then and now to question such common knowledge? Well, it is these evil and filthy books of man made hearsay hadith, it is the rubbish of stories that they collected and recorded in these man made books. The example of the confusion of this man named Malik who created Matwa�¢?? Malik will be clear when all of a sudden he starts to contradict himself and his own collection of man made hadith.
So far it seems for him (Malik) after going through the above 7 hadith that he agreed that breastfeeding should only be for babies in their first two years, yet he starts to post in his book the contrary, let�¢??s see:
The hadith is alleged by someone named Ibn Shihab, so he said:
As for breastfeeding, if it is little or much, it should prohibits. And breastfeeding of adult men also prohibits.
End of hadith
Hmmm, what the f�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦? So what is the story you bunch of confused and dumb hadith writers?
Is breastfeeding after the first two years considered as mere food and does not prohibit?
Or
Does breastfeeding of adult men prohibit?
I reckon most of those confused hadith writers were drunk while they were collecting and writing their crap. And btw they should have not violated anything according to their own man made books of hadith with their drinking habit, because their own man made books of crap hadith told us many times that the noble prophet was fond of drinking wine.
Such crap and contradicting allegations should heat up when Aysha starts to come in the picture, the last 4 hadith we will look at in this sex/porn article are related to Aysha one way or another, either by her being the narrator, or the narration is about her.
The freak hadith writers from among the sunni sect followers always portray Aysha as someone who was not chaste, someone who was most of the time rebellious while having her own religion that she was following as well promoting it between others, no wonder that the shia sect followers have strong ground to launch their malice attack on that innocent woman, I myself do not believe any hadith alleged about her even if it compatible with the Quran. In my books, all Aysha hadith being by her or about her are quickly dismissed in the rubbish bin, this is to protect her and not give any low pervert of a human an atom weight of ground to attack her. Simply I do not need to know anything about her to understand my religion, in fact Muslims are not even required to believe that a person named Aysha existed, and that is how I disable the filthy kafirs and the filthy shia sect followers who attack her using such filthy sunni materials. I simply tell them, I do not believe that a person named Aysha existed, nor that I am required to believe in her existence or her message if there is any.
So let�¢??s see how the filthy sunni sect followers are portraying Aysha:
It was in the Quran that ten breastfeeds should prohibit but it was abrogated by five breastfeeds. Then the messenger of Allah died while it was recited in the Quran.
Yahya then said: Malik said that it should not be like that.
End of hadith
Here you have it, it is alleged that Aysha has doubted the integrity of the Quran, by alleging that there was a verse in there that prohibits humans if they are breastfed ten times or more, then such verse was abrogated with something else, possibly a hadith, so it is now five breastfeeds instead, yet all the hadith we read so far alleged that even one breastfeed should prohibit and even one single suck should prohibit, and even one drop of milk should prohibit.
Can you also see that Malik himself contradicted her and said: It should not be like that. In fact he also contradicted himself too. If it is not like that mister dumb Malik bum, why the hell you included it in your rubbish book of Jerry Springer crap hearsay hadith? I know why he included what he did not agree on, to confuse the shit out of all Muslims who will read his rubbish man made book.
Who and what should we believe exactly?
Is it one drop of Milk that prohibits?
Is it one suck that prohibits?
Is it one breastfeed that prohibits?
Is it five breastfeeds that prohibit?
Is it ten breastfeeds that prohibit?
Is breasting after two years prohibits or it is just like food?
The next hadith portrays Aysha as one who, when she likes any man to enter on her, sends that man to her sister Um-Kalthum to breastfeed him, so he can enter on Aysha and even be with her alone. What a filthy story that is man, let�¢??s spin with the filthy hadith spinners:
The hadith is alleged by a guy named Arwah Ibn Al-Zubair, the hadith is huge and I am not interested to translate to you all such crap and filth, I will only translate to you what you need to know. So the story goes like this.
There was a woman named Sahlah Bint Suhail who was married to Abi Huzaifah, both adopted a guy named Salim, so when the Quran prohibited adoption and commanded the believers to call the adopted children to their real fathers, Sahlah went to the prophet and asked him what she has to do now with her adopted son Salim, so the prophet told her to breastfeed him five times, as by then he should be prohibited to her, so he can enter on her freely as he will be considered as her son by breastfeeding.
What is revolting that the allegation quickly told us that Aysha adhered to that straight away, so whenever she liked a man to enter on her, she sent that man to her sister Um-Kalthum to breastfeed him, so he will be the son of Aysha�¢??s sister, consequently he is prohibited to Aysha, and consequently he can enter on her and be alone with her. Let me show you how such filth is stated in Arabic:
فأخذت بذلك عائشة أم المؤمنين فيمن كانت تحب أن يدخل عليها من الرجال فكانت تأمر أختها أم كلثوم بنت أبي بكر الصديق وبنات أخيها أن يرضعن من أحبت أن يدخل عليها من الرجال
Here is an exact translation to the above crap and filth:
Aysha took that and whenever she liked a man to enter on her from the men, she used to command her sister Um-Kalthum the daughter of Abi Bakr, and command the daughters of her brother, to breastfeed whoever she liked to enter on her from among the men.
The above does not only imply that Aysha was a whore, rather Aysha and her sister Um-Kalthum were whores, as well the husband of Um-Kalthum must have been a pimp. I am not slandering these people, it is the rubbish book of hadith that are upheld by the confused sunni sect followers that clearly defame these women and men.
What the above crap of hadith also told us that all the rest of the messenger wives disagreed with Aysha and they never took that as a law from the prophet. Let me put to you the exact Arabic words:
وأبى سائر أزواج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أن يدخل عليهن بتلك الرضاعة أحد من الناس وقلن لا والله ما نرى الذي أمر به رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سهلة بنت سهيل إلا رخصة من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم في رضاعة سالم وحده لا والله لا يدخل علينا بهذه الرضاعة أحد فعلى هذا كان أزواج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في رضاعة الكبير
Here is an exact translation to the above crap and filth:
And the rest of the prophet wives refused that any man enters on them via such breastfeeding, and they said: No, by Allah, we do not see that which the prophet commanded except as special circumstances that applied only to Sahlah Bint Suhail with her breastfeeding to Salim. No, by Allah no man should enter on us using such breastfeeding.
And that is how were all the rest of the prophet wives concerning the breastfeeding of adults
End of haidth
The above clearly means that Aysha was the only pervert; would not that be very strong grounds for the filthy shia sect followers to attack that woman maliciously?
There is also a huge contradiction in the above crap, the narrator of this crap is a guy named Arwah Ibn AL-Zubair, whom we read about earlier in hadith #1110 above, here it is again:
Breastfeeding is when it happens in the first two years even it is one drop (of milk), it causes prohibition, but any breastfeeding after the first two years is like food being eaten
Another two guys, Ibrahim Ibn Uqbah and Arwah Ibn Al-Zubair confirmed what Saeed Ibn Al-Musib said by saying the exact same.
End of hadith
I.e. for Arwah Ibn Al-Zubair, there should be no adult breastfeeding. For him, adult breastfeeding does not prohibit because it is considered like food, YET that confused man is coming here to slander Aysha by alleging that she still used to send adult men to her sister to breastfeed them so they become prohibited to her and can enter freely on her and be alone with her.
What all that load of filth, crap and contradictions? Well, it does not stop here, there is more, we already know that all the wives of the prophet with the exception of Aysha, rejected breastfeeding the adult men and never allowed such men to enter on them, here is the exact Arabic words again:
وأبى سائر أزواج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أن يدخل عليهن بتلك الرضاعة أحد من الناس وقلن لا والله ما نرى الذي أمر به رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سهلة بنت سهيل إلا رخصة من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم في رضاعة سالم وحده لا والله لا يدخل علينا بهذه الرضاعة أحد فعلى هذا كان أزواج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في رضاعة الكبير
Here is an exact translation yo the above crap and filth:
And the rest of the prophet wives refused that any man enters on them via such breastfeeding, and they said: No, by Allah, we do not see that which the prophet commanded except as special circumstances that applied only to Sahlah Bint Suhail with her breastfeeding to Salim. No, by Allah no man should enter on us using such breastfeeding.
And that is how were all the rest of the prophet wives concerning the breastfeeding of adults.
Yet in the next hadith we read that Hafsa Bint Omar who was also a wife of the prophet was doing the exact same as Aysha was doing, i.e. when any of them liked any man to enter on them, they send them to their sisters to breastfeed them so they can freely enter on them and be alone together:
The hadith is alleged by a woman named Safayah Bint Abi Ubaid, so she said
Hafsah sent Asim Ibn Abdullah Ibn Saad to her sister Fatimah Bint Omar Ibn Al-Khatab to breastfeed him ten times so he enters on her while he was young being breastfed.
And Fatimah did, so he used to enter on Hafsah
End of hadith
I am sure the Mushrik sunni sect followers will say quickly: No. the hadith says that she sent him while he was a baby being breastfed, not a man. I say that may even make it worse, so the baby was so cute that when he grows up and be a man, most likely he will be a handsome man, so let's book him in with the rest of other future men.
So what is the bloody story, you bunch of confused hadith writers?
Was Aysha alone who used to do so, or Aysha and Hafsah?
And how come Hafsah Bint Omar Ibn Al-Khatab contradicts her own father who was against such type of breastfeeding? Here is what Omar said again in Malik hadith #1114 we discussed earlier:
So Omar Ibn Al-Khatab said to him, return to her and fuck your slave woman, as breastfeeding is only for babies.
For those slanderers of Aysha, it did not stop there, they included other allegations to confirm her perversity:
The hadith is alleged by a guy named Salim Ibn Abdullah Ibn Omar, so he said:
Aysha sent him while he was breastfed to her sister Um-Kalthum Bint Abi Bakr and said to her: Breastfeed him tem times so he can enter on me.
Salim then added: So she breastfed me three times but she got sick and therefore I could not enter on Aysha as Um-Kalthum never completed the ten breastfeeds.
End of hadith
And to further give merit to their lies and slandering about Aysha, they listed another allegation stating whom Aysha used to use as suckling mothers to breastfeed any man she likes to enter on her and be alone with her:
The hadith is alleged by the father of a guy named Abdul Rahman Ibn Al-Qasim, so he said
They used to enter on Aysha those whom she sent to be breastfed by her sisters and the daughters of her brother, but those who were breastfed by the wives of her brothers were not allowed to enter on her.
End of hadith
Total non sense and rubbish, so why then those who were breastfed by her sisters in law were not prohibited to her? Wouldn�¢??t they be considered as the sons of her brother? As the other woman, in the other Malik hadith #1114, did when she was jealous seeing her man fucking his female slave, and she breastfed her so she would be like his daughter and be prohibited to him.
It seems to me that even at that early time of Islam after the death of the prophet, many Muslims were just inventing their own laws according to their own desires. From day one after his death it seems.
Do I need to summarize to you all the contradictions and non sense in the above crap? Well, why not so it is clear to everyone:
Summary of contradictions, non sense and crap:
-> In the first Malik hadith (un-numbered) & hadith #1104 & #1106 & #1110 & #1111 & #1114 & #1115
- Breastfeeding is only in the first two years and during that time it prohibits.
- Any breastfeeding after the first two years is considered food and does not prohibit.
- One suck within the first two years of breastfeeding is enough to cause prohibition
- No breastfeeding for adults.
- Adults breastfeeding does not prohibit.
-> In Malik hadith #1112
- One suck within any time of breastfeeding is enough to cause prohibition
- Adults breastfeeding is allowed and prohibits.
-> In Malik hadith #1113
- Minimum five breastfeeds are required to cause prohibition.
- Adults breastfeeding is allowed and prohibits.
- When Aysha liked any man to enter on her and be alone with her, she used to send those men to her sister Um-Kalthum and the daughters of her brothers to be breastfed
- Men who are breastfed by the wives of Ayasha�¢??s brothers, are not prohibited.
- All the wives of the prophet with the exception of Aysha rejected such thing called adult breastfeeding, and they never allowed any man to enter on them through such flawed breastfeeding.
-> In Malik hadith #1118
- Minimum ten breastfeeds are required to cause prohibition as alleged to have been part of the Quran.
- The verse in the Quran of ten breastfeeds was abrogated by some man made hadith and gone missing.
- Adults breastfeeding is allowed and prohibits.
- Minimum five breastfeeds are required to cause prohibition as alleged in the man made hadith.
- Malik rejected all the above in hadith #1118
-> In Malik hadith #1108
- Hafsah also used such flawed concept of adult breastfeeding and used to send anyone ,she likes to enter on her and be alone with her, to her sister to be breastfed.
- Adults breastfeeding is allowed and prohibits.
- Ten breastfeeds are required to cause prohibition
-> In Malik hadith #1107
- Adults breastfeeding is allowed and prohibits.
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Read above first ^^^^^
Again, what is the bloody story exactly?
Have these man made books of crap hadith made such un-needed subject to talk about, clear?
Did any of the prophet wives really do so while the Quran told them the following:
يَا نِسَاءَ النَّبِيِّ مَنْ يَأْتِ مِنْكُنَّ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُبَيِّنَةٍ يُضَاعَفْ لَهَا الْعَذَابُ ضِعْفَيْنِ ۚ وَكَانَ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرًا (30) O wives of the prophet! Whoever of you commits a clear indecency, the punishment will be doubled for her two fold; and that is upon Allah easy. [Al Quran ; 33:30] وَمَنْ يَقْنُتْ مِنْكُنَّ لِلَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَتَعْمَلْ صَالِحًا نُؤْتِهَا أَجْرَهَا مَرَّتَيْنِ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهَا رِزْقًا كَرِيمًا (31) And whoever of you is obedient to Allah and His messenger and does a good deed , We will give her, her reward twice, and We have prepared for her an honourable provision. [Al Quran ; 33:31] يَا نِسَاءَ النَّبِيِّ لَسْتُنَّ كَأَحَدٍ مِنَ النِّسَاءِ ۚ إِنِ اتَّقَيْتُنَّ فَلَا تَخْضَعْنَ بِالْقَوْلِ فَيَطْمَعَ الَّذِي فِي قَلْبِهِ مَرَضٌ وَقُلْنَ قَوْلًا مَعْرُوفًا (32) O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other of the women; If you will fear (Allah), then be not soft in (your) saying, lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire; and say a kind saying. [Al Quran ; 33:32] وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَىٰ ۖ وَأَقِمْنَ الصَّلَاةَ وَآتِينَ الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ۚ إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا (33) And remain in your houses and do not display your adornment as was the adornment display of former times of ignorance. And stand up for the prayer, and give Zakah (Alms), and obey Allah and His messenger. Allah only wants to remove from you the uncleanness, O people of the House! And to purify you a (thorough) purifying. [Al Quran ; 33:33] وَاذْكُرْنَ مَا يُتْلَىٰ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ وَالْحِكْمَةِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ لَطِيفًا خَبِيرًا (34) And remember what is recited in your houses of the signs of Allah and wisdom; indeed Allah is ever Subtle, Acquainted. [Al Quran ; 33:34]
Allah also commanded the believers the following concerning the wives of the prophet:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتَ النَّبِيِّ إِلَّا أَنْ يُؤْذَنَ لَكُمْ إِلَىٰ طَعَامٍ غَيْرَ نَاظِرِينَ إِنَاهُ وَلَٰكِنْ إِذَا دُعِيتُمْ فَادْخُلُوا فَإِذَا طَعِمْتُمْ فَانْتَشِرُوا وَلَا مُسْتَأْنِسِينَ لِحَدِيثٍ ۚ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكُمْ كَانَ يُؤْذِي النَّبِيَّ فَيَسْتَحْيِي مِنْكُمْ ۖ وَاللَّهُ لَا يَسْتَحْيِي مِنَ الْحَقِّ ۚ وَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُوهُنَّ مَتَاعًا فَاسْأَلُوهُنَّ مِنْ وَرَاءِ حِجَابٍ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَطْهَرُ لِقُلُوبِكُمْ وَقُلُوبِهِنَّ ۚ وَمَا كَانَ لَكُمْ أَنْ تُؤْذُوا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَلَا أَنْ تَنْكِحُوا أَزْوَاجَهُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ أَبَدًا ۚ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكُمْ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ عَظِيمًا (53) O you who have believed! Do not enter the houses of the prophet except that permission is given to you for a meal, not waiting for its cooking (to finish) but when you are invited, then enter, and when you have been fed, then disperse, not seeking to listen to (his) saying, indeed, that harms the prophet as he is shy of you, and Allah is not shy from the truth. And when you ask them (the prophet wives) for maintenance, ask them from behind a veil; that is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it not for you that you harm the messenger of Allah, nor that you marry his wives after him ever; indeed, that would be, in the sight of Allah, great (sin). [Al Quran ; 33:53]
-> See: وَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُوهُنَّ مَتَاعًا فَاسْأَلُوهُنَّ مِنْ وَرَاءِ حِجَابٍ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَطْهَرُ لِقُلُوبِكُمْ وَقُلُوبِهِنَّ , i.e. And when you ask them (the prophet wives) for maintenance, ask them from behind a veil; that is purer for your hearts and their hearts. See how when the believers needed to ask the wives of the prophet something or any help or whatever, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FROM BEHIND A VEIL.
But those filthy man made books of hadith portray the opposite about the prophet wives (the mothers of the believers), whenever a couple of them liked a man to enter on them, they sent that man to their sisters to be breastfed then the men can enter on them freely and be with them alone, under the deluded apology which is, to make those believing men prohibited to them.
There is actually a very important point against those confused and Mushrik hadith worshippers, Allah called the wives of the prophet, the mothers of the believers, see:
النَّبِيُّ أَوْلَىٰ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ مِنْ أَنْفُسِهِمْ ۖ وَأَزْوَاجُهُ أُمَّهَاتُهُمْ ۗ وَأُولُو الْأَرْحَامِ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلَىٰ بِبَعْضٍ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُهَاجِرِينَ إِلَّا أَنْ تَفْعَلُوا إِلَىٰ أَوْلِيَائِكُمْ مَعْرُوفًا ۚ كَانَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْكِتَابِ مَسْطُورًا (6) The Prophet is more worthy for the believers than themselves, and his wives are their mothers. And those of relationships, some of them with respect to others are more worthy (for inheritance) in the book of Allah than the believers, and (than) those who have migrated, except that you do well to your guardians; that is in the book inscribed. [Al Quran ; 33:6]
-> See: وَأَزْوَاجُهُ أُمَّهَاتُهُمْ , i.e. and his wives are their mothers , this is not : زى امهاتهم , i.e. and his wives are LIKE their mothers , NO NO, it means that his wives are their mothers.
And because mothers are prohibited:
حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمْ أُمَّهَاتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُمْ وَعَمَّاتُكُمْ وَخَالاَتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُ الأَخِ وَبَنَاتُ الأُخْتِ وَأُمَّهَاتُكُمُ اللاَّتِي أَرْضَعْنَكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُم مِّنَ الرَّضَاعَةِ وَأُمَّهَاتُ نِسَآئِكُمْ وَرَبَائِبُكُمُ اللاَّتِي فِي حُجُورِكُم مِّن نِّسَآئِكُمُ اللاَّتِي دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَإِن لَّمْ تَكُونُواْ دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَلاَ جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَحَلاَئِلُ أَبْنَائِكُمُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ أَصْلاَبِكُمْ وَأَن تَجْمَعُواْ بَيْنَ الأُخْتَيْنِ إَلاَّ مَا قَدْ سَلَفَ إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا (23) Prohibited to you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your sisters of your father, and youÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??re the sisters of your mother, and the daughters of your brother, and the daughters of your sister, and your foster mothers who have breastfed you, and your sisters through breastfeeding, and the mothers of your wives. And your step daughters, who are in your care, of your wives with whom you have consumed marriage; but if you have not consumed marriage with them, then there should be no blame upon you. And (prohibited to you) are the wives of your sons who are from your loin, and that you take in marriage two sisters together, except what has already passed. Indeed, ever is Allah Forgiving, Merciful. [Al Quran ; 4:23]
-> See: حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمْ أُمَّهَاتُكُمْ , i.e. Prohibited to you are your mothers,
Then the wives of the prophets are already PROHIBITED to all believers, therefore NON OF THEM needed such flawed and disturbing concept of adult breastfeeding to make themselves prohibited to the believing men.
In fact Allah even said it LOUD AND CLEAR that they are prohibited to all believing men in a verse that we already walked through (did you notice it?) Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s have a look, shall we:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتَ النَّبِيِّ إِلَّا أَنْ يُؤْذَنَ لَكُمْ إِلَىٰ طَعَامٍ غَيْرَ نَاظِرِينَ إِنَاهُ وَلَٰكِنْ إِذَا دُعِيتُمْ فَادْخُلُوا فَإِذَا طَعِمْتُمْ فَانْتَشِرُوا وَلَا مُسْتَأْنِسِينَ لِحَدِيثٍ ۚ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكُمْ كَانَ يُؤْذِي النَّبِيَّ فَيَسْتَحْيِي مِنْكُمْ ۖ وَاللَّهُ لَا يَسْتَحْيِي مِنَ الْحَقِّ ۚ وَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُوهُنَّ مَتَاعًا فَاسْأَلُوهُنَّ مِنْ وَرَاءِ حِجَابٍ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَطْهَرُ لِقُلُوبِكُمْ وَقُلُوبِهِنَّ ۚ وَمَا كَانَ لَكُمْ أَنْ تُؤْذُوا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَلَا أَنْ تَنْكِحُوا أَزْوَاجَهُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ أَبَدًا ۚ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكُمْ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ عَظِيمًا (53) O you who have believed! Do not enter the houses of the prophet except that permission is given to you for a meal, not waiting for its cooking (to finish) but when you are invited, then enter, and when you have been fed, then disperse, not seeking to listen to (his) saying, indeed, that harms the prophet as he is shy of you, and Allah is not shy from the truth. And when you ask them (the prophet wives) for maintenance, ask them from behind a veil; that is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not for you that you harm the messenger of Allah, nor that you marry his wives after him ever; indeed, that would be, in the sight of Allah, great (sin). [Al Quran ; 33:53]
-> See: وَمَا كَانَ لَكُمْ أَنْ تُؤْذُوا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَلَا أَنْ تَنْكِحُوا أَزْوَاجَهُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ أَبَدًا, i.e. And it is not for you that you harm the messenger of Allah, nor that you marry his wives after him ever;
I.e. the wives of the prophet were already prohibited TWICE in the Quran. This must put all these shameful man made books of crap hadith where they belong, the filthiest rubbish bin in the universe
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Great job, Ahmed.
I would say this was long over due.
No sane and well-read Muslim will accept such crap ahaadith.
Thanks, mate
Salaams
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Ahmed,
This was class! Enjoyed reading it. I really need a nice Roflmao emoticon and you have not done it yet in the Emoticons available.
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The hadith is alleged by Abdullah Ibn Omar, so he said:
A man came to Omar Ibn Al-Khatab and said: I have a slave woman and I اطؤها , AtwÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??ha, fuck her; so my wife went to her and breastfed her. When I came back and I wanted to enter on her (to fuck the slave) my wife shouted at me and said, by Allah, I have breastfed her.
So Omar Ibn Al-Khatab said to him, return to her and fuck your slave woman, breastfeeding is only for babies.
End of hadith
lol!
Salaams
BMZ
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LOL dear BMZ
Thanks mate, I will try to add the smilies just for you, so we laugh well at those bunch of hadith writers and their followers
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Hey bro I have added the following smilies:
I am still adding more, possibly another 100, it is not that easy though.
To view them you need to click the link view more emotions, and as you can see i need to do more php code modification to spread them more horizontly, and possibly view more in the add comment screen instead of pressing view more emotions. I will let you know
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All done, mate:
Enjoy
Thanks, mate.
These are my favourite
Forgot to tell you that the page generation is faster than before. I am getting pages between 0.67 to 1.10 seconds
Well done
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Salam all
I hope you have enjoyed Malik's porn show as he expressed it in his rubbish book. Today I will continue the show but not with porn rather with shit, I mean urine, so let's urinate in Malik's brothel, I mean Muwata'a Malik:
The first hadith is under a chapter that is titled: الطهارة , i.e. Purification, under a sub-chapter that is titled: ما جاء في البول قائما وغيره , i.e. What was said concerning urinating while standing and other,
The above is alleged by someone named Yahya Ibn Saeed, so he said:
A Bedouin entered the mosque, then he revealed his dick to urinate, so the people shouted at him but the messenger said to them leave him, so he urinated, and after that the prophet ordered to bring some water and he dropped some of it in that spot (where he urinated)
End of hadith
Far out man, I guess there might be some perverted merits to talk about porn and sex, but what is the bloody merit to talk about someone trying to urinate in a mosque? Possibly to learn a lesson that we should stop such filthy people from urinating inside the mosques if they try to? It does not look like it, mates, look how the noble prophet allowed such filthy man to urinate inside a mosque despite that such filthy man entered the mosque only to urinate and not to worship Allah, and despite that the other believers inside the mosques tried to stop him, yet they were commanded to let him urinate. I guess if in some other Bukhari crap hadith, the prophet was ok for dogs to urinate inside the mosques, why not let some filthy people to do it too, let me bring that stupid Bukhari hadith in here:
The above crap is from the same chapter of Wudo, in which we learn from the always questionable Abu Hurairah the following saying by him, he said that he heard the following from Mohammed:
A man saw a dog eating the dust from thirst, so the man put some water in his hands then put it in front of the dog mouth until the dog was not thirsty any more, so Allah thanked the man and made him enter Jannah
And again that was not the end of the hadith, at the end it was said that during the time of the prophet, the dogs were allowed to urinate, and enter the mosques, and they were not ever spraying water to clean it.
End of hadith
So what you guys think of the sunnah in Malik hadith #129?
Well, I guess here is the sunnah that we should learn:
1- When we are praying in a mosque and some filthy guy enters then exposes his dick to urinate, we should allow him to do so
2- Wash the spot where he urinated inside the mosque with some water, then continue to pray
Man, what sort of sunnah is that? I do not really get it, possibly if we look at another Malik hadith from the same urine sub-chapter, I may get it? Let me see:
The second hadith is under the same chapter that is titled: الطهارة , i.e. Purification, under a sub-chapter that is titled: ما جاء في البول قائما وغيره , i.e. What was said concerning urinating while standing and other,
The above is alleged by someone named Abdullah Ibn Dinar, so he said:
I saw Abdullah Ibn Omar urinating while standing.
End of hadith
Hahahahahaha, that was one hell of a joke mister standing comedian, Malik. So what is the story mister Malik with Abdullah Ibn Omar urinating while standing? So if he does it while sitting down, would that be haram?
So what is the story with the women who want to urinate while sitting down? Should the women urinate while standng as well? Bloody funny
The hadith is not even about seeing the prophet urinating while standing, I am sure they have some that allege so about the prophet, but what that has to do with Abdullah Ibn Omar urinating standing? Oh, I get it:
It is to confirm that what Muhammed was doing while urinating, was a command from him? Right you bunch of confused idol worshippers and hadith writers.
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Salam all
Many horny people requested to continue MalikÃ?¢??s porn/sex show instead of talking about الطهارة , i.e. Purification. I guess, most people are fond of sex, so let me make their wish comes true, but this time I will do it differently, I will still talk about الطهارة , i.e. Purification directly, but indirectly I am talking sex. Let me politically correct that so people do not get me wrong. What I mean is this:
I will let Malik talks directly about الطهارة , i.e. Purification and indirectly about sex, sort of dirty sex too, so let the porn show resumes:
The hadith we are going to look at is under the same chapter that is titled: الطهارة , i.e. Purification, under a sub-chapter that is titled: و سئل مالك عن رجل له نسوة وجواري هل يطؤهن جميعا قبل , i.e. And Malik was asked about a man who has a few free and slave women, and he wants to fuck them all before
I guess Malik meant, before having a bath in between, sort of Malik was asked if it is ok to fuck a few women one after the other and without having a bath in between.
Can you also see the Arabic word يطؤهن , YatoÃ?¢??hunna as seen in the sub chapter title which means: fuck them. Remember what I told you about the title of this man made hadith book, that it sounds like a porn book, it is called موطأ مالك , MuwataÃ?¢??a Malik, the Arabic verb يطأ , YatiÃ?¢??aa means To fuck, so to make from it اسم مكان i.e. to make a noun indicating a place from it, it becomes موطأ , MuwataÃ?¢??a, i.e. A place of fucking, i.e. a brothel. LetÃ?¢??s now look at this allegation which certainly has no relation to the prophet, as the one who was asked was Malik and not Muhammed:
The above is alleged by no one but Malik, so he said about himself (funny indeed):
And Malik was asked about a man who has a few free and slave women, if it is ok to fuck them before having a bath (in between).
So Malik said: It is ok to fuck the slave woman before having a bath, but as for the free women, it is not ok that the man fuck the free woman in the day of the other slave woman, but if he fucks the slave woman after the free woman while he is not purified, then that is ok.
End of hadith
I did not translate the last paragraph because it is just totally something else useless and not related to the above, which I am going to pick on.
I am sure you noticed what I am going to pick on. Well how disgusting and how discriminating, discriminating between the slave woman and the free woman, by considering the slave woman as a piece of shit for which it is ok to fuck her while we are dirty. But as for the free woman, it is no no, i.e. we should always have a bath before we fuck a free woman.
Certainly the above makes absolutely no sense to any sane man, how about diseases transferred from the free woman to the slave woman? How about being fair between the two women?
Who made that woman slave from the first place? It is Allah of course, to test us and see how we will treat them in fairness and justice, not boldly discriminate against them, so what is the point to having those slaves?
Is it to care for them and provide to them a clean and prosper life or to abuse the shit out of them by forcing them into sex with men and women, and yet while not being clean?
It is like those slaves should never get a chance in life. How ridiculous.
The problem here for mister Malik, that Bukhari contradicted him big times through Maliks's son Anas, so let's have a look, shall we:
It simply alleges that the prophet used to sleep with all his wives in an hour of a day or an hour of a night without having a bath in between, one of those who heard the above crap wondered to how the prophet managed to do that, so he was answered that the prophet was given the sexual power of 30 men, the hadith ended by stating that it was not known if he did it with 9 or 11 wives one after the other
Hahahaha, so what is the story misters Malik, Anas Ibn Malik and Bukhari? I know what is the story, you are nothing but a bunch of confused souls promoting crap, contradictions and non sense, certainly most of the prophet wives were FREE WOMEN
What should assure all sincere Muslims reading this that indeed those hadith writers were only working for Iblis and we should never take or even consider the allegations they have recorded, the following undeniable fact, that Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, the good friend of Bukhari contradicted his hadith above, let�¢??s have a look:
The hadith is alleged by a guy named Abi Rafi, so he said:
The prophet used to TAFA over all his wives in one day and he used to have a bath at each one�¢??s house. So the prophet was asked: Can you make it one bath? The prophet replied: That is AZKA wa ATHAR wa ATYAB
End of hadith
See how the prophet replied when asked to make sleeping with multiple women ok witout having a bath on between, the prophet replied : هذا أزكى وأطهر وأطيب , i.e. That is purer, more purifying and better, i.e. what he did which having a bath in everyoneÃ?¢??s house is certainly purer, more purifying and better.
So what is the story you bunch of confused hadith worshippers and writers:
Should we have a bath between sleeping with multiple wives on the same day?
Should we not have a bath between sleeping with multiple wives on the same day?
Are the slave women less humans in the eyes of Allah?
Did the prophet have a bath in between sleeping with his 11 or 9 wives on the same day?
Did the prophet not have a bath in between sleeping with his 11 or 9 wives on the same day?
I guess there should be only one decisive answer for all the above questions:
That these evil and man made books of hadith which are filled with contradictions, non sense and lies must be burnt. Even Ahmed Ibn hanbal alleged that it has been done as the prophet commanded:
The hadith is alleged by the always questionable Abu Hurairah, this is ironic, it is like Allah made him convict himself with his own hands, by making Ahmed Ibn Hanbal recording this hadith in which, Abu Hurairah said:
We were sitting down writing what we hear from the prophet, he came to us and said: What is that which you are writing. We said: it is what we hear from you, then he said: Another book with the Book of Allah?, we said: it is what we hear, he said: Write down the book of Allah, uphold the Book of Allah, what! Another book but the book of Allah?. Uphold the Book of Allah, Abu Hurairah said: So we collected what we wrote ALL TOGETHER and burnt it with fire, then we said: O Rasool Allah, can we talk about you?, he said: Yes you can talk about me and there should be no blame on you, and whoever lies about me deliberately, then his seat in hell will be secured. Then we said: Can we talk about the children of Israel? He said: Yes you can talk about the children of Israel and there should be no blame on you, and whatever you say about them but there is more to wonder about them.
End if hadith
See how the sahaba OBEYED the prophet when he commanded them to only write the Quran of the things he says: So we collected what we wrote ALL TOGETHER and burnt it with fire
Would the above be enough to convince اولو الالباب , Ulu Al-Albab, i.e. Those who possess minds (brains) from among the Muslims that these books were the main tool for Iblis to confuse most Muslims if not all? I say it is all in the hands of Allah, that is if most of them want to follow His straight path.
But before I go, I will leave you with yet another contradiction from these manmade books of crap hadith, it is almost impossible and even inconceivable to see Muslim men and Muslim women doing Wudu together in a mosque. Malik is telling us the contrary:
The hadith is under the same chapter that is titled: الطهارة , i.e. Purification, under a sub-chapter that is titled: قال يحيى قال مالك لا بأس به إلا أن يرى على فمها نجاسة , i.e. Yehya said that Malik said that it is ok unless he sees some dirt on her mouth
What a hell of sub-chapter title man, it is like setting up the scene for a steamy kiss, so it is ok unless there is some dirt on her mouth, actually I am just using the word dirt to translate Najasah, but the word means far more than dirt, to be honest it implies that the woman they are talking about just finished a blow up job, so her mouth is Nijis. Please don�¢??t be angry with me, bloody oath, be angry with the owner of the brothel:
The above is alleged by Abdullah Ibn Omar, so he said:
Indeed, men and women during the time of the messenger used to do Wudu together.
End of hadith
What about the Najasah in her mouth mister Malik?
Funny indeed, imagine you are standing in a queue of men and women while watching other women exposing their arms and legs to wash them, but hey it is ok according to Malik unless you see the Najasah on the mouth of those women while standing in the queue (possibly at that situation you kick them out of the queue). But I bet that should be also perfect for many perverts.
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Fri 25 Dec, 2009 4:46 pm
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Salam all
Many horny people requested to continue MalikÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s porn/sex show instead of talking about الطهارة , i.e. Purification. I guess, most people are fond of sex, so let me make their wish comes true, but this time I will do it differently, I will still talk about الطهارة , i.e. Purification directly, but indirectly I am talking sex. Let me politically correct that so people do not get me wrong. What I mean is this:
I will let Malik talks directly about الطهارة , i.e. Purification and indirectly about sex, sort of dirty sex too, so let the porn show resumes:
The hadith we are going to look at is under the same chapter that is titled: الطهارة , i.e. Purification, under a sub-chapter that is titled: و سئل مالك عن رجل له نسوة وجواري هل يطؤهن جميعا قبل , i.e. And Malik was asked about a man who has a few free and slave women, and he wants to fuck them all beforeÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¦Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¦
I guess Malik meant, before having a bath in between, sort of Malik was asked if it is ok to fuck a few women one after the other and without having a bath in between.
Can you also see the Arabic word يطؤهن , YatoÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??hunna as seen in the sub chapter title which means: fuck them. Remember what I told you about the title of this man made hadith book, that it sounds like a porn book, it is called موطأ مالك , MuwataÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??a Malik, the Arabic verb يطأ , YatiÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??aa means To fuck, so to make from it اسم مكان i.e. to make a noun indicating a place from it, it becomes موطأ , MuwataÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??a, i.e. A place of fucking, i.e. a brothel. LetÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s now look at this allegation which certainly has no relation to the prophet, as the one who was asked was Malik and not Muhammed:
The above is alleged by no one but Malik, so he said about himself (funny indeed):
And Malik was asked about a man who has a few free and slave women, if it id ok to fuck them before having a bath (in between).
So Malik said: It is ok to fuck the slave woman before having a bath, but as for the free women, it is not ok that the man fuck the free woman in the day of the other slave woman, but if he fucks the slave woman after the free woman while he is not purified, then that is ok.
I did not translate the last paragraph because it is just totally something else useless and not related to the above, which I am going to pick on.
I am sure you noticed what I am going to pick on. Well how disgusting and how discriminating, discriminating between the slave woman and the free woman, by considering the slave woman as a piece of shit for which it is ok to fuck her while we are dirty. But as for the free woman, it is no no, i.e. we should always have a bath before we fuck a free woman.
Certainly the above makes absolutely no sense to any sane man, how about diseases transferred from the free woman to the slave woman? How about being fair between the two women?
Who made that woman slave from the first place? It is Allah of course, to test us and see how we will treat them in fairness and justice, not boldly discriminate against them, so what is the point to having those slaves?
Is it to care for them and provide to them a clean and prosper life or to abuse the shit out of them by forcing them into sex with men and women, and yet while not being clean?
It is like those slaves should never get a chance in life. How ridiculous.
The problem here for mister Malik, that Bukhari contradicted him big times through Maliks's son Anas, so let's have a look, shall we:
It simply alleges that the prophet used to sleep with all his wives in an hour of a day or an hour of a night without having a bath in between, one of those who heard the above crap wondered to how the prophet managed to do that, so he was answered that the prophet was given the sexual power of 30 men, the hadith ended by stating that it was not known if he did it with 9 or 11 wives one after the other
Hahahaha, so what is the story misters Malik, Anas Ibn Malik and Bukhari? I know what is the story, you are nothing but a bunch of confused souls promoting crap, contradiction and non sense, certainly most of the prophet wives were FREE WOMEN
Wat should assure all sincere Muslims reading this that indeed those hadith writers were only working for Iblis and we should never take or even consider the allegations they have recorded, the following undeniable fact, that Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, the good friend of Bukhari contradicted his hadith above, let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s have a look:
The hadith is alleged by a guy named Abi Rafi, so he said:
The prophet used to TAFA over all his wives in one day and he used to have a bath at each one�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s house. So the prophet was asked: Can you make it one bath? The prophet replied: That is AZKA wa ATHAR wa ATYAB
End of hadith
See how the prophet replied when asked to make sleeping with multiple women ok witout having a bath on between, the prophet replied : هذا أزكى وأطهر وأطيب , i.e. That is purer, more purifying and better, i.e. what he did which having a bath in everyoneÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s house is certainly purer, more purifying and better.
So what is the story you bunch of confused hadith worshippers and writers:
Should we have a bath between sleeping with multiple wives on the same day?
Should we not have a bath between sleeping with multiple wives on the same day?
Are the slave women less humans in the eyes of Allah?
Did the prophet have a bath in between sleeping with his 11 or 9 wives on the same day?
Did the prophet not have a bath in between sleeping with his 11 or 9 wives on the same day?
I guess there should be only one decisive answer for all the above questions:
That these evil and man made books of hadith which are filled with contradictions, non sense and lies must be burnt. Even Ahmed Ibn hanbal alleged that it has been done as the prophet commanded:
The hadith is alleged by the always questionable Abu Hurairah, this is ironic, it is like Allah made him convict himself with his own hands, by making Ahmed Ibn Hanbal recording this hadith in which, Abu Hurairah said:
We were sitting down writing what we hear from the prophet, he came to us and said: What is that which you are writing. We said: it is what we hear from you, then he said: Another book with the Book of Allah?, we said: it is what we hear, he said: Write down the book of Allah, uphold the Book of Allah, what! Another book but the book of Allah?. Uphold the Book of Allah, Abu Hurairah said: So we collected what we wrote ALL TOGETHER and burnt it with fire, then we said: O Rasool Allah, can we talk about you?, he said: Yes you can talk about me and there should be no blame on you, and whoever lies about me deliberately, then his seat in hell will be secured. Then we said: Can we talk about the children of Israel? He said: Yes you can talk about the children of Israel and there should be no blame on you, and whatever you say about them but there is more to wonder about them.
End if hadith
See how the sahaba OBEYED the prophet when he commanded them to only write the Quran of the things he says: So we collected what we wrote ALL TOGETHER and burnt it with fire
Would the above be enough to convince اولو الالباب , Ulu Al-Albab, i.e. Those who possess minds (brains) from among the Muslims that these books were the main tool for Iblis to confuse most Muslims if not all? I say it is all in the hands of Allah, that is if most of them want to follow His straight path.
But before I go, I will leave you with yet another contradiction from these manmade books of crap hadith, it is almost impossible and even inconceivable to see Muslim men and Muslim women doing Wudu together in a mosque. Malik is telling us the contrary:
The hadith is under the same chapter that is titled: الطهارة , i.e. Purification, under a sub-chapter that is titled: قال يحيى قال مالك لا بأس به إلا أن يرى على فمها نجاسة , i.e. Yehya said that Malik said that it is ok unless he sees some dirt on her mouth
What a hell of sub-chapter title man, it is like setting up the scene for a steamy kiss, so it is ok unless there is some dirt on her mouth, actually I am just using the word dirt to translate Najasah, but the word means far more than dirt, to be honest it implies that the woman they are talking about just finished a blow up job, so her mouth is Nijis. Please don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t be angry with me, bloody oath, be angry with the owner of the brothel:
The above is alleged by Abdullah Ibn Omar, so he said:
Indeed, men and women during the time of the messenger used to do Wudu together.
End of hadith
What about the Najasah in her mouth mister Malik?
Funny indeed, imagine you are standing in a queue of men and women while watching other women exposing their arms and legs to wash them, but hey it is ok according to Malik unless you see the Najasah on the mouth of those women while standing in the queue (possibly at that situation you kick them out of the queue). But I bet that should be also perfect for many perverts.
Salam
This is a great series, Ahmed.
Please carry on. I am sure most of teh readers are enjoying your commentaries.
Hilarious ahaadith.
I am really shocked how the idiots could create stories which have nothing to do with the prophet.
Salaams, mate
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Fri 25 Dec, 2009 6:40 pm
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Bukhari said: Anas Ibn Malik convicted Abu Hurairah as charged
The messenger of Allah Salla Allah Alaihi Wa Sallam said: Do not make wine in Al-Dubba nor in Al-Muzaffat.
Abu Hurairah used to add to them Al-Hantam and Al-Naqir.
-> Hmmm, so the noble messenger of Allah instead of delivering the guidance of Allah to them, he was teaching them what type of containers they should use to do wine in it. Yep for Al-Mushrikoon, it is ok that Bukhari is telling us that Muhammed was a professional wine drinker who knew which type of containers to use for wine and which should not be used.
-> In addition to that, Bukhari is telling us that Anas Ibn Malik said that Abu Hurairah used to add to what the prophet said, in effect Anas convicted Abu Hurairah as charged, that Abu Hurairah was telling the people man made rubbish hadith from his own and not from the prophet.
LOL, truly a brothel this Malik is preaching. All he is interested in is allowed sex with slaves and thinking about breasts and drinking breast-milk! Btw, did anyone figure out why Malik claims that Aysha never breast-fed the men but sent them to her sisters? The answer is obvious if you read Bukhari who claims that she was 9 years old AH, the great wisdom of the scholars, Aysha was not sending the men to her sisters because she wanted to, it's just that she was prebuscent and couldn't produce milk, hahaha. Bukhari and Malik are the biggest liars and mushrikeen I have ever seen!
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AH, the great wisdom of the scholars, Aysha was not sending the men to her sisters because she wanted to, it's just that she was prebuscent and couldn't produce milk, hahaha. Bukhari and Malik are the biggest liars and mushrikeen I have ever seen!
